Chopmonkz Self excluded

[Mentholdan]

Watching the latest video on YouTube from Chipmonkz, he said he has self excluded himself from one or two on line casinos for about a month because he's gambling needs to be curtailed 😁. Still streaming on line with raw cash though. Bonkers, or is he? 

Streaming means he's still making money I suppose. My advice would be get a proper job and see how you feel about losing money you worked bloody hard for. 

So after one month he'll be cured of his addictive behaviour and or at least have it under control.?? 

Sounds to me he wants to have his cake and eat it. 

[Nomadsteve1]

I did hear about him doing this, I can’t work out the logic in doing this, I can only guess that there is a slot that is exclusive to these two sites and that is why he excluded from only two out of 100s of different sites, unless I’m missing something 🤔

[Cheekydme]

10 hours ago, Mentholdan said:

Watching the latest video on YouTube from Chipmonkz, he said he has self excluded himself from one or two on line casinos for about a month because he's gambling needs to be curtailed 😁. Still streaming on line with raw cash though. Bonkers, or is he? 

Streaming means he's still making money I suppose. My advice would be get a proper job and see how you feel about losing money you worked bloody hard for. 

So after one month he'll be cured of his addictive behaviour and or at least have it under control.?? 

Sounds to me he wants to have his cake and eat it. 

People who work hard for there money also have gambling addictions,addiction goes across all walks of life it can effect anyone an it happens gradually an it isn't until it starts to effect everything in your life that you realize, addiction what ever form  it takes doesn't discriminate.

[The crisp man]

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15 minutes ago, Cheekydme said:

People who work hard for there money also have gambling addictions,addiction goes across all walks of life it can effect anyone an it happens gradually an it isn't until it starts to effect everything in your life that you realize, addiction what ever form  it takes doesn't discriminate.

Of course, that's the point the OP is making, Chipmonkz, is a streamer and is making money from still streaming. So the best solution would be to step away and work in a proper job.  Some streamers include gambling loses in their "overheads."

Gambling addiction is deadly and I dont think anyone disputes that, but the best option for a streamer is to stop and step (sorry) away from streaming and look at another career.

[Mentholdan]

35 minutes ago, Cheekydme said:

People who work hard for there money also have gambling addictions,addiction goes across all walks of life it can effect anyone an it happens gradually an it isn't until it starts to effect everything in your life that you realize, addiction what ever form  it takes doesn't discriminate.

I posted on here some time back a very long post regarding my mother's battle with alcoholism. I'm fully aware of the devastating effect any addiction can have on a person, their kin and close friends. I'm 62 years old, my mum died over 15 years ago, she was addicted to alcohol for the WHOLE OF MY LIFETIME. I still suffer from the affects that her addiction had on me. Try and come up with some of the ways that her addiction did affect me and then multiply it 5 fold. From being a child in the school playground having a gang of kids chanting abuse at me, or having my wife leaving me because she couldn't cope with the addiction and how it affected us as a family. I could rattle off loads of scenarios but it doesn't matter, just know this, I know only too well the affects of addictions. 

Now back to what I quoted, how on earth can you self exclude yourself from some but not all gambling sites and still carry on streaming and gambling elsewhere.? Well that's because he's getting paid for streaming. 

If a family member has an addiction to slots and said they had self excluded from 2 casinos but not the other hundreds would YOU be satisfied they are making a brave and honest attempt to quit. If my mum had said to me she was no longer going to drink Brandy but only beer would I have taken that as a genuine attempt to stop drinking.? 

He's making money from streaming, he said on today's offering he has an accountant to manage his affairs from affiliate marketing. I'm not making it up, watch the videos. He says on EVERY stream that if anyone watching has a problem with gambling see the link below. He said that he's excluded himself from CASUMO because he was losing regularly at that casino, but only a week or so ago he said he was looking to move away from CASUMO because they were not very quick payers when it came to cashing out! Today he said they are averaging 20.000 viewers per you tube video, he will sit facing that camera and tell you that he only wins when people who sign up from his site lose, and when they win then that money is deducted, which is true. But believe you me, 20.000 viewers is serious advertising potential and worth its weight in gold.

I really enjoy watching his videos, they are so cheesy and naive and quite amateurish that I find them compulsive viewing. He swears a little but doesn't have mouth like a sewer, "neither does Darren or BC Slots" Nevertheless I enjoy watching them, I genuinely find them very entertaining. I'm a hairy arsed builder who can swear with the best of them but streamers such as Jimbo and The Bandit and especially the biggest culprit of all "Fruity Slots" who has a mouth like the foulest toilet you can imagine are a very bad influence on younger viewers. The reason that I get so riled up by these people is that they must think that the people watching them are ignorant uneducated morons if the really expect us to believe the tripe they are spewing.so finally, if you, or someone close suffers from any addiction, I do know the pain you go through, I really do. 

[DaveM]

We don't know how he got his funds. Now way he is making hundreds a day from having that few viewers. Maybe he worked 25 years and took a payout or has a reasonable pension.

 

The big worry is Mr Wig who uploaded a video of two bonus buys at £100 a time and he was previously uploading bookies videos while living in his car or some mad shit like that.

 

He does have a problem to be doing that and if he is faltering again he needs to get help ASAP

[Cheekydme]

1 hour ago, Mentholdan said:

I posted on here some time back a very long post regarding my mother's battle with alcoholism. I'm fully aware of the devastating effect any addiction can have on a person, their kin and close friends. I'm 62 years old, my mum died over 15 years ago, she was addicted to alcohol for the WHOLE OF MY LIFETIME. I still suffer from the affects that her addiction had on me. Try and come up with some of the ways that her addiction did affect me and then multiply it 5 fold. From being a child in the school playground having a gang of kids chanting abuse at me, or having my wife leaving me because she couldn't cope with the addiction and how it affected us as a family. I could rattle off loads of scenarios but it doesn't matter, just know this, I know only too well the affects of addictions. 

Now back to what I quoted, how on earth can you self exclude yourself from some but not all gambling sites and still carry on streaming and gambling elsewhere.? Well that's because he's getting paid for streaming. 

If a family member has an addiction to slots and said they had self excluded from 2 casinos but not the other hundreds would YOU be satisfied they are making a brave and honest attempt to quit. If my mum had said to me she was no longer going to drink Brandy but only beer would I have taken that as a genuine attempt to stop drinking.? 

He's making money from streaming, he said on today's offering he has an accountant to manage his affairs from affiliate marketing. I'm not making it up, watch the videos. He says on EVERY stream that if anyone watching has a problem with gambling see the link below. He said that he's excluded himself from CASUMO because he was losing regularly at that casino, but only a week or so ago he said he was looking to move away from CASUMO because they were not very quick payers when it came to cashing out! Today he said they are averaging 20.000 viewers per you tube video, he will sit facing that camera and tell you that he only wins when people who sign up from his site lose, and when they win then that money is deducted, which is true. But believe you me, 20.000 viewers is serious advertising potential and worth its weight in gold.

I really enjoy watching his videos, they are so cheesy and naive and quite amateurish that I find them compulsive viewing. He swears a little but doesn't have mouth like a sewer, "neither does Darren or BC Slots" Nevertheless I enjoy watching them, I genuinely find them very entertaining. I'm a hairy arsed builder who can swear with the best of them but streamers such as Jimbo and The Bandit and especially the biggest culprit of all "Fruity Slots" who has a mouth like the foulest toilet you can imagine are a very bad influence on younger viewers. The reason that I get so riled up by these people is that they must think that the people watching them are ignorant uneducated morons if the really expect us to believe the tripe they are spewing.so finally, if you, or someone close suffers from any addiction, I do know the pain you go through, I really do. 

I'm really sorry you have had such a terrible time in life I do understand as I have a similar back ground,I now understand what everyone is saying basically it wouldn't be good to be a barman if you we're a alcoholic or be a manager in a bookies if your a gambler,I didn't know all the in's an outs how can he exclude him self from some sites it's not going to solve anything,you can't carry on streaming if you have a addiction an expect to give up gambling,well he does want to have his cake an eat it then,an that explains why he gets so stressed when he looses I didn't know he actually had a addiction just thought he did it to make money,he defently needs to change his vocation then doesn't he.

[Cheekydme]

1 hour ago, DaveM said:

We don't know how he got his funds. Now way he is making hundreds a day from having that few viewers. Maybe he worked 25 years and took a payout or has a reasonable pension.

 

The big worry is Mr Wig who uploaded a video of two bonus buys at £100 a time and he was previously uploading bookies videos while living in his car or some mad shit like that.

 

He does have a problem to be doing that and if he is faltering again he needs to get help 

Yes i watched this if he was truly over his gambling addiction he wouldn't have done this nobody buys two 100 pound bonuses for fun only a true gambler would do that,an if you have managed to give up you would stay well clear.

[Cheekydme]

2 hours ago, The crisp man said:

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Of course, that's the point the OP is making, Chipmonkz, is a streamer and is making money from still streaming. So the best solution would be to step away and work in a proper job.  Some streamers include gambling loses in their "overheads."

Gambling addiction is deadly and I dont think anyone disputes that, but the best option for a streamer is to stop and step (sorry) away from streaming and look at another career.

Yes I understand,an I agree with you.😀

[Mentholdan]

Hi Cheeky D, don't worry, I'm not on the verge of a meltdown or anything like that 😁  it's amazing how there's more and more places out there for any type of addiction or people affected by someone else's addiction, but for someone like myself who has deep set issues from another's long term problems, places are thin on the ground. As I said I like Chip and enjoy watching his streams daily, but I do wonder sometimes that the information streamers feed us might just be FAKE NEWS. When you read the texts in the messages alongside the stream it's clear that some of them are quite bonkers, but there are some people watching that do have half a brain between their ears and can work out roughly what's going on. 😁

[TheKingInTheNorth]

Menth as usual I find myself nodding in agreement with what you say on the topic of addiction.

ive seen gambling addiction first hand (and I’ve sailed pretty close to the wind myself).

If the guy has a problem in general then self excluding from a couple of sites is like pissing into the Atlantic Ocean. The only thing that will help is complete abstinence for at least a decent period.

The only thing that I think separates alcoholics and drug addicts from gambling addicts is that for the first two complete abstinence for life is essential because of the physical state the drug puts you in.

For some (not all and not many) who’s have been gambling addicts or on the verge of it there is a road back to “controlled gambling” but the person has to first stop digging the hole, fill it in and then take stock of what problems excess gambling caused them and try to understand what drove them to that as there’s usually a physiological trigger such as escapism or boredom in the first place which then causes the spiral into debt and chasing the money.

People who attend GA will tell you it isn’t about the money and in a way they are correct but in another they are wrong as it’s the spiral into debt that drives more and more gambling. If a person can stop and through a bit of graft dig themselves out the hole and then understand what went wrong and how to avoid it...

Id like to think I’m confident the above is true as there a reason I don’t gamble online anymore, and I’m no stranger to the workings of a GA meeting (obviously don’t go anymore).

yup, I like to punt and at times I play hard and fast but I’ve worked hard and no longer jeopardise my bills, food on the table etc. I know how much I can afford to lose and because I’m debt free (including my home) I’m never chasing money, I can now accept that when I’ve lost my whack it’s lost and not coming back!

I remember the agony of spending every penny in the bank and my wallet and having to beg and borrow my way through the month... Never Again.

[Cheekydme]

I'm glad to hear that you have over come your addiction it's nice to read a happy ending.you are right about what you said about escapisim my addiction started when one day my world was blown apart,I'm still struggling 9 years later I hope to get where you are one day an when I do I will never ever gamble again.