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10 hours ago, Mick said:

I always thought it was a con though Blindhaze. That it would come out in years to come but by then nobody could prove they lost all that money illegally and thus not claim it back unlike 

the PPI.

"This machines is random" ...yet in a feature of 15 boxes one of which contains £500 I never once picked it after hundreds of tries.

That line is also the biggest con in gambling, if everything was random they would not be making billions a year from it.

You're confusing random chance with equal chance.

 

Fruit machines are compensated and carry the warning along the lines of 'May offer the player a choice were there is little chance of success' which is code for you are not winning unless we choose for you to win. Essentially the outcome is decided before you press the button.

 

An FOBT that says it is random does not have that fix in place. However when you are on the 50/50 gamble it might have a random number generator from 1-100 and it might be 1-30 win and 31-100 lose for a double your money. You are betting to double your money and the result is random but it doesn't mean that you have an exactly equal chance.

 

The third possibility, which is usually only on select games and in the gamble feature, is true random. This will be your exact odds gamble.

 

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Trust me, the machines are random and do exactly what they say they do.

What do a company like Gala Coral have to gain by “robbing punters” through “fixing” machines? Very little indeed and the cost of being caught doing so would be catastrophic to their business.

People forget that the RTP is a LONG TERM RTP.....

If you walk up with £20 there’s a good chance you’ll leave with nothing

With £200 there’s a good chance you’ll leave with nothing

With £2k there’s a good chance you’ll leave with nothing as well.

Let me explain.....

People forget that every 40p win the get and cycle through the machine is included in the RTP, you may find the two punters in question had many small prizes but chose to cycle them through rather than collecting them all.

Now if you wanted to prove The RTP which you don’t need to anyway as they are independently audited.

Take £2,000,000 and load it into a machine and collect every single win you get, every 20p or £500. At the end I guarantee you would have around £1,900,000 based on an RTP of 95%, this would maybe be out by 20k either way but the figure will be around that.

Why? Simply because you have eliminated the natural variability of the machine by playing so much and not recycling the wins you have standard deviation in the machine and arrived at the statistical norm.

why do you think sometimes people stick £20 in and win £2k? It’s standard deviation, they’ve just got lucky with it. The same is true in reverse and why you can lose £2k rapid, you’ve just arrived at a time when the standard deviation is against you.

Its not fixing or cheating it’s just how they work. That £2k is now in the system and in time £1950 will be returned to players (in 95% RTP)

To believe sticking £2k in a machine in one single session entitles anyone to win is just naive in my opinion. 

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For me, the hardest decision and probably the most important is, when I walk into a shop and the four Fobts are all vacant, which one should I sit at? 

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19 minutes ago, Mentholdan said:

For me, the hardest decision and probably the most important is, when I walk into a shop and the four Fobts are all vacant, which one should I sit at? 

Aye, I have that problem and if some geezer sits at another and scoops while I’m getting violated I’m furious at the injustice of it all🤣🤣🤣

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About three years ago I published an RNG test report, you can look at it here: https://stopandstep.com/rng-test-report/
It's for a WMS (SG-Gaming) slot. One of the key parts of it was that the test was over 20,000,000 (20 million) spins! I'm not sure how many spins a slot does in its life-time, but I doubt it's even close to that.

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31 minutes ago, StopandStep said:

About three years ago I published an RNG test report, you can look at it here: https://stopandstep.com/rng-test-report/
It's for a WMS (SG-Gaming) slot. One of the key parts of it was that the test was over 20,000,000 (20 million) spins! I'm not sure how many spins a slot does in its life-time, but I doubt it's even close to that.

Here in the US, the slots are not required to display the RTP to players on the help screen. However, each state’s gambling regulator does publish data on actual payback percentages during the previous fiscal year. In Nevada for example, slots returned back to the player anywhere between 88% for the lowest stake games (mainly on the Las Vegas Strip), up to 96%.

https://www.americancasinoguide.com/slot-machine-payback-statistics.html#Nevada

Darren - maybe on your next trip to Vegas, you can try a casino off the strip. You’ll likely find looser slots. No guarantees of course. 😁

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It's strange that despite %'s being 90%+ and seeing people lose thousands quickly that a affiliate like Nickslots can do live streams for long periods most days, clearly play them when not streaming and barely lose year on year.

You do not have to be that clever with maths to do the sums here and if somebody is doing £2-5 spins it does not take long to do £100's worth a spins where over time you in theory owe the casino around £6-10 depending on the %, that takes minutes if that, times that by hours and then days and weeks and then a year then it's impossible to sit playing slots like this even with incredible luck without losing a 6 figure sum.

I questioned him in a friendly manner over this, he blocked me within 30 seconds. He seems to block every single comment that does not say "well done nick" "your a hero nick" "I want your babies nick"...I also think the charity donation is a massive decoy to the obvious here....I'm surprised the government/gambling commission is allowing all these affiliates to use youtube still, youtube closed them all down but let them all start up again, must do some serious damage to the weak minded especially the weekly "big win" brainwashing nickslots video's

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He's a bellend. Plain and simple. And I don't say that as someone he has blocked. He hasn't blocked me and he is still a bellend. He's blatantly on the payroll. Who the f*ck has slot machine promotional posters on their wall?

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In a recent stream he unwrapped merchandise sent to him live on air, it was half a dozen or so game posters. I would imagine if anyone sent an email to any games creator such as Netent, Blueprint etc and told them how wonderful their games are that they would send you a bunch of stuff through the post. I'll give it a go, apparently I'm an expert at crawling up peoples arses. 😂😂😂😂😂😂

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4 minutes ago, Mentholdan said:

In a recent stream he unwrapped merchandise sent to him live on air, it was half a dozen or so game posters. I would imagine if anyone sent an email to any games creator such as Netent, Blueprint etc and told them how wonderful their games are that they would send you a bunch of stuff through the post. I'll give it a go, apparently I'm an expert at crawling up peoples arses. 😂😂😂😂😂😂

I suspect its more along the lines of have this stuff visible on your person or in camera sight and we will give you money.

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25 minutes ago, DaveM said:

I suspect its more along the lines of have this stuff visible on your person or in camera sight and we will give you money.

Absolutely, and I can't stand the geezer either, he's always going on about what he's got and his Audi sports car. I've got f**k all by the way and drive a 1997 Toyota Lucida with all the rear seats removed. My dear old dad always said "son, a motor ain't no good to you if you can't get a wheelbarrow in the back" 

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You have to give Nick credit he puts a lot of effort into brainwashing the addicts making them think he is some poor slot player. If only they knew how much money he takes out of the game I'd say well in excess of 6 figures. That is why he blocks every comment on the subject. He does not want the scam to be exposed.

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17 hours ago, Mick said:

You have to give Nick credit he puts a lot of effort into brainwashing the addicts making them think he is some poor slot player. If only they knew how much money he takes out of the game I'd say well in excess of 6 figures. That is why he blocks every comment on the subject. He does not want the scam to be exposed.

He doesn’t take six figures out of the slots, it’s far more devious than that.

For those that don’t know how affiliate payments work here’s what happens....

Affiliates have a website and their streams/uploads are their direct advertising to get you on their website where you will find reviews of casino sites & games. A nice link to direct you to a casino is provided to swiftly take you there.

You sign up through the link and the system recognises the affiliate link and links your account to that affiliate (e.g. Nickslots), now that affiliate probably dependent on their status with the site will now receive  a certain % commission on either your deposits or losses (not 100% sure in which), so imagine you being a big Nickslots fan decide to take his recommendation to play at site “X”, you sign up deposit and lose £1,000 and nick gets 10%, yup, your “mate” has not only enabled your loss of £1,000 he’s tailed a nice £100 of it for doing so! He literally wants you to LOSE So gets a slice of YOUR cash!

That said in fairness to Darren he plays a lot of FOBT and arcade which I doubt he gets anything from but will make sone advertising cash from YouTube and affiliate cash as well, he also plays at “sane” levels for the most part and seems to have a reasonable game plan which prevents him doing his bolx 🤣🤣.

I don’t know Darren from Adam but I suspect he at some point one way or another has reached a point where he’s financially comfortable and with his revenues as noted above probably plays a break even game maybe he does make profit overall, I don’t know 🤷‍♂️

I just get the feeling in Darren’s case it’s not about the money per se but more like a hobby if you will, he enjoys slot play and evidently enjoys doing his videos and that’s why he does it.

Others as far as I’m concerned want people depositing and losing as much as they can get out of them through their links so they can keep raking that in and feeding their own habits through the misery of others (you can decide which streamers fall into this for yourself).

For the above I have NEVER signed up to an online casino through an affiliate link and never will.

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He won't even get that much. The % will be of the casino profits. And that's of course after all licensing operating staff costs etc have been accounted for.

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I too can't stand Nick slots, he's very big headed and opinionated and narcissistic, as are most streamers who are in front of the camera in their streams. As I've said before, it's like the X factor auditions with them, they don't care if they're no good as long as people get to see them. They just love the sound of their own voice. Learning how affiliation works is interesting and enlightening but as its not illegal I find it hard to criticise. Some might think it's immoral but people who sign up to casinos through a streamer have no one to blame but themselves, unless of course they're unaware of how it works. My biggest problem is this, I was watching nick slots last week and that day he was giving away 5 prizes of £500 in a competition, very generous indeed. He chose the winners at random at the end of the stream. My gripe is that I can never be sure that the emails aren't just phantoms to make him look good, like a streaming Robin Hood. For me he would have to make it more transparent. In short, without calling him a liar, I just can't believe him. 

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